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    September 16

    冒个泡——大家来算积分~

    用这种方式冒泡可能确实比较发指~,但刚才看到的一个积分确实把我雷到了:

    待积的形式是 3xdx/(根号下x^4+2x),

    TeXically, \int\dfrac{3xdx}{\sqrt{x^4+2x}}.

    [Bonus problem: \int\dfrac{6xdx}{\sqrt{x^4+4x^3-6x^2+4x+1}}]
    (注意根号里面有一个减号,所以不是完全平方~)

    其实我一直认为积分是很初等的内容……

    我要说的是, 原函数是存在而且初等的——刚才我惊讶之余还验算了一下……对我看到的不定积分求导……

    我没有验算的是这个form的differential Galois group, 有兴趣的人可以做一做~

    第一个求出Bonus原函数来的有奖。能解释一下为什么的就更赞了~。

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    Xin shenwrote:
    設y=分母,于是y^2=x^4+...,兩邊除以x^2,然后根據x和1/x的對稱性,變成k^2=L^2-12,其中k=y/x,L=x+1/x+2,之后可以對此進行有理化:k=(t^2-12)/2t, L=(t^2+12)/2t, 但x+1/x+2=(t^2+12)/2t這里卻沒有辦法。按理說y^2=x^4+...是個torus,單參數化似乎不可能,但另一方面積分本身是R上的,要參數化似乎就只能單參數。這點我比較confused。
    Sept. 18
    什么东西卡住了?
    Sept. 18
    Xin shenwrote:
    做到x+1/x+2=(t^2+12)/2t卡住了
    Sept. 17
    qingwrote:
    为什么数学系的同学们看到积分就像过年似的~
    Sept. 17
    To hh: 貌似这是所谓的“伪椭圆积分”……
    Sept. 17
    哦,根号2可以放到+C里面去……

    Integrator做\int\dfrac{3xdx}{\sqrt{x^4-2x}}得到的结果居然和\int\dfrac{3xdx}{\sqrt{x^4+2x}}显得很不一样……
    Sept. 17
    Hao Huangwrote:
    sorry.... 看少了分母上的一个sqrt,我在想你怎么会出这么弱智的题……
    难道是椭圆积分一类的东西?有空想想
    Sept. 17
    洪宾wrote:
    In fact, I did not use your "ti shi"...
    Where is the \sqrt{2}? I can't find it...
    Sept. 17
    To jasonsun again: 你似乎miss了一个根号2......
    Sept. 17
    To hh: 不涉及三角函数的哦~

    to Jasonsun: 我就是很快反应过来第一个不难才出了Bonus problem的……
    不过你丫居然在msn上得到了哥的“提示”才做出来,真fz......

    提示一下剩下的:Google “integrator” 可以帮你做第一题,第二题嘛,去Arxiv里面找吧~
    额外提示:这个积分可是Abel 阿大人整出来的哦~
    Sept. 17
    Jiewrote:
    正在烦躁之时看见你的作品。。。突然觉得飘忽了。。。
    Sept. 16
    aiqunwrote:
    老天,为什么你写汉语我也看不懂呢?
    Sept. 16
    Hao Huangwrote:
    For your bonus problem, isn't that the result is quite ugly?
    can you avoid using arctan (arcsin etc also counts) and log?
    I only know I can integrate

    \dfrac{1}{x^2+(2-2\sqrt{3})x+1}-\dfrac{1}{x^2+(2+2\sqrt{3})x+1}

    The first one will result in arctan, second one log sth.....
    Sept. 16
    洪宾wrote:
    第一个是2ln(x^\frac{3}{2}+(x^3+2)^\frac{1}{2})+C
    bonus还不知道...
    Sept. 16
    o......看来kk不欢乐了……

    >_<
    Sept. 16
    KKwrote:
    orz, 你应该回归之前欢乐的风格...
    Sept. 16
    当然,似乎换元也是可以做的……anyway~
    Sept. 16

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